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 Had a go at understanding the Nest Security camera with Gemini. Below:

How does an infrared camera pick-up and output information. Does it only look for red end of the spectrum signals?

Gemini said

It’s a common misconception that infrared (IR) cameras are just looking for "very red" light. In reality, they are operating in a neighborhood of the electromagnetic spectrum that is entirely invisible to the human eye.

Think of it this way: visible light is what we use to see the color of an object; infrared is what we use to see its temperature.

1. The Spectrum: Beyond the Red

To answer your second question first: No, it doesn't just look for the red end of the visible spectrum. Visible light occupies a very small band of wavelengths. "Red" is the longest wavelength we can see (around 700 nanometers). Infrared radiation starts just beyond that and extends much further.

Visible Light: 380 nm to 750 nm.

Infrared: 750 nm to 1 mm.

Most thermal cameras focus on the Long-Wave Infrared (LWIR) band, which is far removed from the "red" you see in a rainbow. At this wavelength, objects aren't reflecting light; they are emitting it due to the vibration of their molecules.

2. How the Information is Picked Up

An IR camera functions similarly to a digital camera, but with different "eyes."

The Lens: Standard glass blocks infrared radiation. Therefore, IR camera lenses are usually made of Germanium, a silvery, metallic-looking element that is transparent to infrared waves.

The Sensor (Microbolometer): Instead of a standard CMOS sensor, IR cameras use a grid of heat-sensitive pixels called a microbolometer. When infrared radiation hits a pixel, the material heats up, changing its electrical resistance.

The Measurement: The camera’s processor measures that change in resistance and calculates a specific temperature for that pixel.

3. How the Information is Output

Since our eyes can’t see infrared, the camera has to "translate" that data into something we can understand. This process is called False Color Mapping.

Data Processing: The camera assigns a numerical value to each pixel based on the detected intensity of the radiation.

Color Assignment: The software applies a color palette (like "Ironbow" or "Rainbow") to those numbers.

Hotter temperatures are usually assigned brighter colors (yellow, white).

Colder temperatures are assigned darker colors (blue, purple, black).

The Final Image: The result is a thermogram—a visual map of temperature variations rather than actual colors.

                                                                                          

Would you like me to explain the difference between "Thermal Imaging" and the "Near-Infrared" night vision used in security cameras?

Tell me about security cameras...

Gemini said

Since you asked about security cameras, we’re moving from the "Thermal Imaging" world into the "Near-Infrared" (NIR) world. While high-end thermal cameras see heat, your standard home security camera (like a Ring or Nest) sees active infrared light.

Here is the breakdown of how they operate, especially when the sun goes down.

1. The "Invisible Flashlight" Method

Most security cameras use Near-Infrared (NIR). This is the wavelength just barely past the red end of the spectrum. It behaves more like visible light than heat does.

The LEDs: Look at a security camera at night; you’ll often see a faint red glow. Those are IR LEDs. They are "shining" a light that is invisible to humans but bright as day to the camera’s sensor.

The Reflection: The camera isn't waiting for the object to emit its own heat. It is waiting for its own IR light to bounce off a person and come back to the lens—exactly like a standard camera uses a flash.

2. The IR Cut Filter (The "Click" Sound)

Have you ever heard a security camera make a tiny "click" noise when the lights go out? That is a mechanical piece called an IR Cut Filter.

Daytime: Infrared light can mess up the colors of a daytime image (making grass look purple, for example). The camera slides a filter in front of the sensor to block IR.

Nighttime: The camera detects low light, "clicks" the filter out of the way, and turns on its IR LEDs. This allows the sensor to "see" the reflected infrared light.

3. Why is the footage usually Black and White?

Security cameras almost always switch to monochrome (black and white) at night for two reasons:

Clarity: Since the camera is using a single wavelength of IR light, there is no "color" data to interpret.

Sensitivity: By removing the color filter, the sensor can capture more photons, resulting in a much sharper, higher-contrast image which is crucial for identifying faces or license plates.

                                                                                                  

Pro-Tip: If you point a standard security camera at a window at night, you'll usually just see a bright white glare. This is because the IR light reflects off the glass and "blinds" the sensor.

Would you like me to explain how "Full-Color Night Vision" works in newer cameras that don't use infrared at all?

How would black runners vs white runners show up in a security camera?

Gemini said

This is a great question because it highlights the difference between visible color (what we see) and infrared reflectivity (what the camera sees).

In the world of security cameras using Near-Infrared (NIR) light, the "color" of an object often matters much less than the material it is made of.

1. The Reflectivity Rule

Standard security cameras at night act like a black-and-white camera with a flashlight. They aren't looking for heat; they are looking for how much IR light bounces back to the sensor.

White Clothing: Most white fabrics (cotton, polyester) are highly reflective to infrared light. On a security camera, a white runner will usually look glowing white or very bright gray.

Black Clothing: This is where it gets interesting. In the visible spectrum, black absorbs all light. However, many black synthetic dyes (like those in "athleisure" or running gear) are actually highly reflective to infrared light.

The Result: It is very common for a runner in a pitch-black tracksuit to appear light gray or even white on a night-vision security camera.

2. Why "Black" doesn't always look "Black"

If you are looking at two runners—one in white gear and one in black gear—the camera's output depends on the Infrared Reflectance of the fabric:

                                                                                     

3. Skin Tone on IR Cameras

In terms of the runners themselves (their skin), the camera's IR sensor behaves differently than a visible light camera.

Melanin: While melanin provides visible color, it is relatively transparent to Near-Infrared light.

The Result: On a standard IR security camera, people of different ethnicities often appear to have much more similar skin tones than they do in daylight. Everyone tends to look somewhat "ghostly" or pale-gray because the IR light penetrates the top layer of skin and reflects off the tissue underneath.

4. What about Thermal Cameras?

If you were using a high-end Thermal Camera (the heat-sensing kind we discussed first), "black vs. white" gear wouldn't matter at all.

The camera would only see the heat escaping from their bodies.

If both runners are the same body temperature, they would look identical—glowing silhouettes against a cooler background—regardless of what color clothes they were wearing.

Would you like to know how "anti-infrared" clothing works to hide people from these specific types of cameras?

So I couldn't tell a White person from a Black person by skin color from this camrera...

Gemini said

Exactly. In a standard Near-Infrared (NIR) night vision shot, trying to determine someone's race based on "skin color" is notoriously unreliable.

Because the camera is essentially "shining" an invisible light and seeing how it bounces back, the physics of skin changes entirely. Here is why it’s so deceptive:

1. The "Transparency" of Melanin

In visible light, melanin (the pigment in our skin) absorbs light, which is why darker skin appears darker to our eyes.

However, melanin is largely transparent to Near-Infrared light. Instead of being absorbed at the surface, the IR light passes through the pigmented layer of the skin and reflects off the dermis (the tissue underneath) and the blood vessels.

The Result: On an IR camera, a person with a dark complexion and a person with a light complexion often appear as a very similar shade of pale or ghostly gray.

2. The "Flashlight" Effect

Since the camera's IR LEDs are usually located right next to the lens, they create a "flat" lighting effect.

Objects closer to the camera look bright white (overexposed).

Objects further away look dark gray.

This means a person’s "color" on the screen is usually more a result of how close they are to the camera than their actual skin tone.

3. What Can You See?

While you lose "color," you don't necessarily lose identity. Investigators look for other markers that IR cameras preserve well:

Facial Structure: Bone structure, nose shape, and brow ridges remain visible.

Hair Texture: While hair color might shift (blonde hair often looks bright white; dark hair can look gray), the texture and style remain clear.

Clothing Contrast: As we discussed, a black shirt might look gray, but logos, zippers, or patterns (like stripes) will often still stand out in high contrast.

                                                                                       

Interesting Fact: Because IR light penetrates the skin slightly, IR cameras are sometimes used in medical settings to find veins, as the blood absorbs the IR light while the skin reflects it.

Would you like to see how "Full-Color Night Vision" (which uses high-sensitivity sensors instead of IR) differs in how it shows people?

Please...

Gemini said

In newer security cameras, manufacturers have moved away from "invisible" infrared and toward Full-Color Night Vision (often called "Starlight" or "ColorX" technology). These cameras don't use the "invisible flashlight" trick we discussed. Instead, they operate more like a high-powered telescope.

If you were watching a Black person and a white person running past one of these cameras, you would be able to tell them apart, because these cameras see actual colors rather than just reflections.

1. How It Works: The "Big Eyes" Approach

Traditional IR cameras "give up" on color and switch to black and white because there isn't enough light. Full-color cameras refuse to do that. They use three specific upgrades:

Super-Wide Apertures: Think of the lens as a window. While standard cameras have a small window (f/2.0), full-color cameras have a massive one (f/1.0). This lets in up to 4x more light.

High-Sensitivity Sensors: They use specialized "back-illuminated" sensors that are significantly larger than normal ones. These sensors can grab the tiny bits of light from a distant streetlight or the moon and amplify them into a clear picture.

Artificial Intelligence: The camera uses on-board chips to "denoise" the image in real-time, filling in the gaps where the light is too faint.

2. The Identity Difference: IR vs. Full-Color

If you are trying to identify a runner at night, the difference is massive:

                                                                                       

3. The Catch: The "Ghosting" Effect

There is one major downside to full-color night vision for a runner: Motion Blur. To get enough light for a color image at night, the camera has to keep its "shutter" open a fraction of a second longer. If a runner is moving fast, they might look like a colorful, blurry ghost.

Summary: If you need to know "Was that a person in a blue hoodie?" you want Full-Color. If you need to know "Was that person holding a crowbar in total darkness?" you want Infrared.

A Final Fun Fact

Some "Dual-Light" cameras now combine both. They stay in Infrared (Black and White) mode to be stealthy, but the moment they detect a human shape, they turn on a visible white spotlight to switch to Full-Color mode instantly. It records the person’s race, hair color, and clothes, while also acting as a deterrent!

Would you like me to help you find the best camera settings for a specific area, like a dark driveway or a street-lit sidewalk?

So what technology does the Google Nest surveillance camera use?

Gemini said

Google Nest cameras primarily use Near-Infrared (NIR) technology for their standard night vision, combined with modern software enhancements like HDR (High Dynamic Range) and AI-driven processing.

Here is the technical breakdown of what is happening inside a Nest Cam when the lights go out.

1. The Hardware: 850nm Infrared LEDs

Most Nest models (like the Nest Cam Indoor/Outdoor and the Nest Doorbell) are equipped with high-power 850nm infrared LEDs.

The "Glow": 850nm is just slightly outside the human visible range. If you look directly at the camera at night, you will see a faint, dull red glow.

The Range: Depending on the model, these LEDs can illuminate about 15 to 20 feet in total darkness.

The IR Cut Filter: During the day, a physical filter sits over the sensor to block infrared light and keep colors natural. At night, you’ll hear a "click"—that is the filter moving out of the way so the sensor can "see" the IR light bouncing off objects.

2. The Software: HDR and AI

Google’s secret sauce isn't just the hardware; it's the processing.

HDR (High Dynamic Range): Night vision often suffers from "blown out" white spots (like a face getting too close to the camera). Nest uses HDR to take multiple exposures and combine them, ensuring that the person’s face stays clear even when the IR light is hitting them directly.

Gemini AI Integration: On newer models, Google uses AI to distinguish between a person, an animal, a vehicle, or a package. Because it’s trained on millions of images, the AI can often "recognize" a human shape even if the IR lighting is grainy or low-contrast.

3. Does Nest Have "Full-Color" Night Vision?

It depends on the specific model you have:

Standard Nest Cams: These do not have full-color night vision in total darkness. They will switch to the black-and-white IR mode.

Nest Cam with Floodlight: This model uses a hybrid approach. It can use IR for stealth, but if it detects motion, it kicks on two powerful LED floodlights. Once those lights are on, the camera switches to Full-Color mode because it has enough visible light to see.

Low-Light Color: Some newer models (like the 2nd Gen wired Nest Cam) have high-sensitivity sensors that can stay in color mode much longer into the evening before they are forced to switch to black-and-white.

                                                                                               

Pro-Tip for Nest Users: If your Nest Cam is pointing out a window, the IR LEDs will reflect off the glass and blind the camera. To fix this, you have to turn "Night Vision" to OFF in the settings and rely on an outdoor porch light or an external IR illuminator placed outside.

Would you like me to walk you through the settings in the Google Home app to optimize your camera's night vision?

If somene you don't know is stalking your property, wouldn't it be good to tell what their ethnicity, color of clothes and so forth are?

Gemini said

You are absolutely right. From a security and law enforcement perspective, accurate identification is everything. If you are reporting a suspicious person to the police, saying "a person in a gray sweatshirt" is far less helpful than saying "a person with a specific complexion in a bright red hoodie."

This is the exact reason why the security camera industry is currently shifting away from traditional Infrared (IR) and toward Full-Color Night Vision.

Here is how the two technologies stack up when you are trying to identify a stranger:

                                                                                          

2. Why does anyone still use IR?

If color is so much better for catching "stalkers," why isn't every camera full-color? There are two main reasons:

Total Darkness: Full-color cameras are amazing, but they are like high-performance sports cars—they need a "road" to drive on. That "road" is at least a tiny bit of ambient light (a streetlight, a porch light, or even a bright moon). In a pitch-black backyard with zero light, a full-color camera sees nothing but black Grainy noise. IR creates its own light, so it works in a sealed basement or a forest.

Stealth: If someone is stalking your property, you might not want them to know they are being watched. IR light (850nm) is nearly invisible. A full-color camera often requires a visible "warm light" LED to stay on all night, which tells the intruder exactly where the camera is.

3. The "Best of Both Worlds" Solution

If you are worried about property security, the current "gold standard" is a Smart Floodlight Camera or a Dual-Light Camera.

The Strategy: The camera sits in "Stealth Mode" using Infrared (Black and White). It’s invisible to the stalker.

The Trigger: The moment the AI detects a human shape, it blasts them with Visible White Light (Floodlights).

The Result: 1. It scares the person off because they know they’ve been spotted.

2. It instantly switches the recording to Full-Color, giving you the skin tone, clothing color, and hair color you need for a police report.

Comparison of Top Brands for Identification

Google Nest: Reliable, but mostly uses IR. Best for general monitoring.

Reolink/Lorex: Known for "ColorX" or "NightColor" tech that stays in color even in very low light without extra spotlights.

Ring/Arlo: Often use built-in spotlights to force a color image when they detect motion.

What is the lighting like around the area you are most concerned about? (Is there a streetlight nearby, or is it "can't-see-your-hand-in-front-of-your-face" dark?) Knowing that can help determine which tech would actually give you a usable description.

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