The dress Brigitte Macron at the G7 dinner was stunning. Reading up on the event
in various magazines, found out the black part of the outfit was heavier than the white.
The dress Brigitte Macron at the G7 dinner was stunning. Reading up on the event
in various magazines, found out the black part of the outfit was heavier than the white.
My afternoon...
Gemini:
Car repair; I'm about to actually start using Bondo putty for smallish patches on a white Subaru. I have two products: the actual putty with the hardener in a separate tube... and a glazing and spot putty. The latter seems easier to use to me: no mixing, out of the tube. I am wondering what the maximum area that might be good for is. I really don't want to mess things up!!
It is understandable that you want to avoid mistakes, as bodywork requires a bit of patience to get right. To give you the best advice for your Subaru's repairs: do not use the Glazing and Spot Putty as your primary filler.
The two products serve fundamentally different purposes in the repair process, and using the wrong one for a "patch" will likely lead to the repair cracking or falling off over time.
The Critical Difference
Body Filler (The 2-part mix): This is structural. It is designed to fill depth, bond to the metal, and withstand the vibrations and temperature changes a car experiences on the road.
Glazing & Spot Putty (The tube): This is cosmetic. It is meant to be used only as a "finishing" layer to fill tiny pinholes, fine scratches, or minor surface imperfections left after you’ve already sanded your body filler. It is essentially a high-build, lacquer-based paste. It is not strong enough to hold a patch or fill any depth.
"Maximum Area" and Usage Rules
Because Glazing and Spot Putty is not structural, there is effectively no minimum or maximum area for it, other than "as little as possible."
Rule of Thumb: If the area you are trying to fill is larger than a dime or deeper than a fingernail scratch, you should be using the 2-part body filler.
If you try to use the tube putty to cover a larger area (like a quarter-sized dent or a rust hole patch):
It will shrink: As the solvent evaporates, the putty will "sink" into the hole, leaving you with an uneven finish.
It will crack: Because it lacks the chemical strength and reinforcement of the 2-part filler, it cannot flex with the metal of your car.
It will fail: It will likely flake or chip off when the car is exposed to sun, heat, or vibration.
Recommended Workflow for Your Patches
To ensure your repairs last, follow this sequence:
Prep: Strip the area to bare metal (about 3 inches beyond the damage) and ensure all rust is completely removed.
Body Filler: Use your 2-part filler to fill the actual depth of the patch. Shape it, sand it, and get the contour as close to the original body line as possible.
Glaze: Once the body filler is shaped and you see tiny pinholes or slight surface imperfections remaining, apply a very thin skim coat of the Glazing and Spot Putty.
Finish: Sand the spot putty with a finer grit (320–400) to get that "glass-smooth" finish before you prime and paint.
A quick tip for your Subaru: Since you are working on a 2014 white model, ensure you thoroughly clean the area with a wax and grease remover or alcohol before applying any product. If you skip this, even the best filler will struggle to bond to the metal.
How deep or wide are the areas you are planning to patch? Knowing that will help determine if you need any additional steps, like using a metal mesh or fiber-reinforced filler first.
I'm not sure how to handle the body filler product: one needs to mix in some strengthener, and once applied it should dry in 8 minutes before the next coat. What happens to the product I have already prepared; surely it too will dry in a few minutes!!??
You have hit on the exact reason why body filler (often called Bondo) can be intimidating for the first-time user: the clock starts the second you mix the hardener.
You are absolutely correct: any filler left on your mixing board will harden just as quickly as the filler you just spread on your car. You cannot "save" mixed filler for later. Because of this, the secret to professional results is working in small, manageable batches.
Here is how to manage the "ticking clock" so you don’t waste product or panic while applying it.
1. The "Golf Ball" Rule
Never mix the entire contents of your can at once. Even for a medium-sized repair, start small.
Scoop out an amount of filler roughly the size of a golf ball onto your mixing board (a scrap piece of metal, a plastic spreader, or a dedicated mixing board works best).
Add the hardener according to the manufacturer's ratio (usually a "ribbon" of hardener across the center of your pile).
2. Speed and Technique
You don't need to rush like you're in a sprint, but you do need to be deliberate:
Mix thoroughly: Mix the hardener into the filler until the color is perfectly uniform (no streaks). If it isn't mixed well, you will get "soft spots" in your repair that will never cure.
Apply quickly: Use your spreader to firmly press the filler into the surface of the metal—this ensures good adhesion—then build up your desired thickness in one or two quick passes.
Stop shaping: Once it's on the car, stop touching it. If you try to over-work or smooth out the filler while it’s starting to set (going from "gummy" to "rubbery"), you will pull it away from the metal and create bubbles or tears. Let it harden completely.
3. The "Dry" Window
The 8-minute window: That 8-minute timeframe is the working time (before it becomes too stiff to spread). It will usually be sandable within 20–30 minutes, depending on the temperature and humidity in your garage.
Hardening on the board: If you have leftover filler on your mixing board, just let it sit there until it's hard. Once it is a solid, hard puck, you can usually peel it off a plastic board or scrape it off a metal one to reuse the board.
Practical Tips for Success
Don't try to build all your depth at once: If the dent is deep, it is much better to apply two thin layers of 2-part filler than one giant, thick blob. The second layer will bond perfectly to the first one after you sand it flat.
Keep your tools clean: If you have a second plastic spreader, use one to hold the filler and the other to apply it. Immediately wipe your spreader clean with a rag and a little acetone or lacquer thinner before the filler hardens on it. If you let it harden on the tool, it's a pain to scrape off.
Temperature matters: Since you are in Montreal, keep an eye on the weather. If it is very hot, the filler will set even faster than 8 minutes. If it is cool, it will take longer. Always test a tiny bit of your mixture on the corner of the board to see how fast it's setting before you commit to the car.
One final piece of advice: If you have never mixed this before, do a "practice run" on a piece of scrap metal or even a piece of cardboard first. It will help you get a feel for the consistency and how quickly it changes from a paste to a solid.
Do you have a dedicated mixing board, or are you planning to use a specific surface to mix the hardener in?
Help me find applicator tools for Bondo putty. I shop at Canadian Tire...or Dollarama...
You are looking for plastic body filler spreaders. These are the industry standard for DIY bodywork because they are flexible enough to follow the curves of your Subaru's body panels and inexpensive enough that you won't worry about ruining them.
While you could check at a local Dollarama, these are specifically categorized as automotive repair tools and are most reliably found in the automotive section of Canadian Tire or at a dedicated auto parts store. They are almost always sold in multi-packs (usually sets of 3) containing different sizes, which is perfect for your project since you can use a small one for detail work and a larger one to smooth out your filler.
Recommended Applicators
These spreaders are specifically designed to be flexible and reusable. Once the filler hardens on the plastic, you can usually just "pop" it off, or wipe them clean with a bit of acetone while the filler is still fresh.
Bondo Plastic Spreader Set
This is the standard, widely available option you will find at most Canadian Tire locations. It includes three sizes to handle everything from small dings to larger patches.
Dynatron 3 Pack Plastic Spreaders
Another excellent and highly-rated alternative that functions identically, offering the same flexibility and ease of cleaning.
Bondo Spreader 357
A staple in automotive repair kits, these are very reliable and effective for achieving a smooth, consistent finish.
A Quick Tip for Your Purchase:
Avoid Metal "Spreaders" for now: While you may see metal applicators or putty knives at the hardware store, stick to the flexible plastic ones. Metal tools are often too rigid for beginners and can accidentally gouge the filler or leave "tracks" as you try to smooth it out.
Mixing Surface: Since you are buying tools, grab a clean, non-porous surface to act as your mixing board. If you don't have a dedicated one, a piece of flat, scrap sheet metal or a clean, flat plastic surface works great. Some DIYers even use a dedicated "mixing board" pad of peel-away sheets (also found at auto parts stores) so they can just tear off a dirty layer when finished.
If you like, I can look for a simple guide or video recommendations that demonstrate the proper "pressure and swipe" technique for using these spreaders to get that smooth finish on your Subaru. Would you like me to do that?
You were right to suggest a practice run: I cut myself while opening the can of putty, and things went downhill from there. It needs the hardener to set, but is still very sticky without it. The side of my right hand has a putty residue which will be with me for a while.
I am so sorry to hear that! Please make sure you clean that cut thoroughly—even small nicks from metal can be prone to infection, especially when working with chemical products like automotive fillers.
To get that stubborn, sticky filler off your skin, do not keep scrubbing with just soap and water, as it will likely just smear it around. You need a solvent to break the chemical bond.
Removing Putty from Your Skin
Since the filler hasn't been mixed with hardener yet, it is essentially a resin-based paste. Try these steps, in order of effectiveness:
Use a Waterless Hand Cleaner: If you have something like GOJO or Fast Orange (commonly found in the automotive aisle of Canadian Tire), these are designed exactly for this. They contain pumice and solvents that break down resins without being as harsh as pure chemicals.
Acetone or Lacquer Thinner (Use with Caution): If you have acetone (often used for thinning fiberglass resin or cleaning paint brushes), it will dissolve the sticky resin almost instantly. However, use this sparingly since it is very drying to the skin. Put a tiny amount on a paper towel, wipe the residue off, and then immediately wash your hands with soap and water and apply hand cream.
The "Oil" Method: If you don't have solvents, try rubbing a generous amount of vegetable oil, baby oil, or even butter onto the sticky spot. The oil can sometimes help break the resin's grip on your skin's natural oils. Let it sit for a minute, then wipe with a paper towel and wash with dish soap.
A Few Safety Reminders for Your Next Attempt
Since this was a rough start, let’s ensure the next attempt is much smoother:
Protect your hands: Use nitrile gloves when working with body filler. They provide a barrier so you don't have to worry about the resin sticking to your skin, and they make cleanup as easy as peeling off the gloves. You can find these in the paint or automotive section at Canadian Tire.
Handle the cans carefully: Body filler cans can have sharp edges, especially once you've pried the lid off. Use a sturdy screwdriver or a dedicated paint can opener (which has a hook specifically for this) to avoid slipping.
Wear eye protection: If you are sanding or prepping, little bits of metal or dust will fly. Safety glasses are a must.
Once you have cleaned up and the cut is taken care of, do you have someone nearby who can help you hold the lid or assist with the next mixing attempt, or are you planning to jump back into it solo later?
I used nail polish remover on the side of my hand: mostly gone. For the cut, I used a little wipe they use before injections: it burns like anything, but is a sound disinfectant. Put a household plaster aound the finger. I mixed a small amount of putty and hardener with a plastic spoon. And spread it on a fruit can top. It hardens nicely, but there is a quite regular pitting on the surface...I have bought sandpaper of various GRIT values and will be trying out GRIT400 on my can cover.
This is for informational purposes only. For medical advice or diagnosis, consult a professional.
It sounds like you have successfully navigated the "emergency" phase and are now into the testing phase—which is exactly where you want to be before touching the Subaru.
Those little "pits" you are seeing are extremely common in body filler work. They are usually caused by air trapped in the filler during the mixing process or tiny pockets that didn't fully settle against the surface.
A Few Notes on Your Current Progress:
The "Pitting" Reality: In the world of auto body work, these are often called "pinholes." Even professionals get them. This is exactly where that Glazing and Spot Putty (the one in the tube you mentioned earlier) will save the day. Once you sand your base layer, you’ll likely still see some of those pinholes. You just apply a tiny "skim coat" of the glazing putty, let it dry, and sand it again to fill those microscopic gaps.
The 400 Grit Test: Starting with 400 grit on your can cover is a good "finishing" test, but don't be surprised if it feels like it’s taking a long time to remove material.
400 grit is for the final smoothing.
80–180 grit is for the "heavy lifting" (shaping the main blob of filler).
If you find that 400 grit isn't making a dent in the shape, don't worry—your filler isn't defective, you just need a coarser grit to get the initial contour right before refining it with the 400.
A Tip on Mixing (to avoid the pits)
When you mix with that plastic spoon, try to "fold" the hardener into the filler rather than whipping it. Whipping it creates thousands of tiny air bubbles, which eventually become those little pits you see on the surface. Imagine you are folding egg whites into a cake batter: press down and pull across rather than stirring in circles.
A Quick Word on the "Injection Wipe"
Since you are in the Montreal area and it is currently mid-June, keep an eye on that finger. Even a small "plaster" (bandage) can get damp and irritate a cut if you are sweating or working in the humidity. If it starts to look red or feels hot, definitely give the bodywork a break for a day or two to let it heal properly.
You are building a great process: testing on a can lid is the exact method a pro would use to check how the filler behaves in the current temperature and humidity.
Are you planning to tackle the actual car panels today, or are you going to keep practicing on the can lids until you're completely confident in the finish?
The Francophone press is not talking about it this morning, but the Globe
and Mail is: the CBC's contract to provide hockey has expired and is not
being renewed. And that means the end of free hockey in Canadian media...
Seems unthinkable, doesn't it...
Hockey Night in Canada, gone...
Copilot:
But I just read the CBC will no longer be offering free hockey, its agreement with Sportnet has ended...
You’re absolutely right, Louise — and the news is real and confirmed.
CBC will no longer broadcast NHL games, including the traditional Saturday Night Hockey Night in Canada, starting with the 2026–27 season. This is because CBC and Sportsnet failed to renew their sublicensing agreement.
Here’s the clear, sourced explanation of what changed and what it means for you.
🧊 What happened? (Confirmed by multiple sources)
CBC announced that it could not reach a new sublicensing deal with Sportsnet, the national rights‑holder, so Hockey Night in Canada will no longer air on CBC at all.
CBC said the agreement “expired at the end of the Stanley Cup playoffs” and was not renewed.
Sportsnet confirmed that CBC will no longer carry NHL broadcasts as it shifts to new sports programming.
This ends a 74‑year run of Saturday night NHL games on CBC.
CBC will still own the “Hockey Night in Canada” trademark, but no longer airs the games.
🏒 So… is hockey still free anywhere?
Unfortunately: No.
With CBC out, there is no longer a free national broadcaster carrying Saturday night NHL games.
📺 Where Saturday Night Hockey moves now
All Saturday night NHL games will now be exclusively on Sportsnet, because they hold the national rights.
Sportsnet will air all Saturday games under its new 12‑year NHL deal.
This means you must have Sportsnet (TV or Sportsnet+) to watch the Saturday night game.
💰 What’s the cheapest way now?
Since CBC is no longer an option, the lowest‑cost way to watch Saturday Night Hockey is:
Sportsnet+ STANDARD — $29.99/month
This tier includes the national Saturday night game.
You do not need the Premium tier unless you want out‑of‑market games.
🎯 Your new “no‑frills” Saturday Night setup
Sportsnet+ STANDARD ($29.99/month)
→ This is now the minimum required to watch the Saturday night game in Québec.
If you want, I can break down:
whether blackouts affect you in Québec,
whether your TV provider already includes Sportsnet,
or whether Sportsnet+ is cheaper than your current setup.
I am assuming this is true for French language Hockey Night as well..
Yes, Louise — the same situation applies on the French‑language side.
There is no separate French‑language “Hockey Night” equivalent on CBC/Radio‑Canada, and the end of CBC’s sublicensing deal with Sportsnet affects all national Saturday broadcasts, regardless of language.
Here’s the clear picture, based on the confirmed reporting:
🇫🇷 French‑language NHL broadcasts: What changes?
1. CBC losing NHL rights affects only the English network
CBC (English) lost the ability to air any NHL games because its sublicensing deal with Sportsnet expired and was not renewed. This is confirmed across multiple sources.
2. French‑language NHL rights are separate — and held by TVA Sports
In Canada, the exclusive French‑language national broadcaster for the NHL is TVA Sports, not Radio‑Canada.
This arrangement is part of the same Rogers/Sportsnet national rights deal, which includes a French‑language sublicensing agreement with TVA Sports (not CBC/Radio‑Canada).
3. TVA Sports continues to hold French national rights
Nothing in the recent announcements indicates that TVA Sports is losing its French‑language NHL package.
All reporting about the end of sublicensing refers only to CBC, not to TVA Sports.
CBC’s exit is tied to its own English‑language sublicensing deal ending.
4. There was never a free French‑language Saturday night broadcast
Unlike English CBC, Radio‑Canada has not aired NHL games for years.
So there is no French‑language equivalent of “free Saturday night hockey” disappearing — because it didn’t exist in the first place.
🧊 So what does this mean for you in Québec?
To watch Saturday night NHL games in French:
👉 TVA Sports remains the French‑language broadcaster.
You need:
A TV package that includes TVA Sports, or
A streaming service that carries TVA Sports (depending on your provider).
To watch Saturday night NHL games in English:
👉 You now need Sportsnet (TV) or Sportsnet+ STANDARD (streaming), because CBC no longer carries the games.
🎯 Bottom line
English CBC: No more NHL — including Saturday night.
French Radio‑Canada: Did not have NHL rights anyway.
French TVA Sports: Still the home of French‑language NHL broadcasts.
*Saturday night hockey now requires Sportsnet (English) or TVA Sports (French).
If you want, I can tell you exactly which channels you’d need in St‑Jean‑sur‑Richelieu depending on whether you prefer French or English commentary — and whether your current provider already includes them.
The announcement has finally come: Prince George is headed to
Eton College next fall. At 63,000 British pounds per year (118,000CAD), this
is clearly an elite school. And very traditional, 'where the stuff that won against
Napoleon' (Wellington) came from!! It is a full boarding school, boys only, with sports,
debating, drama and many other exercises to form character.
So I was all ready to post a cheeky bit about the reported weekly menu at such a school,
and the perils for the waistline that lurk between Full English Breakfast and daily pud. Turns out
there is another problem with EC: they tend to score very badly on STEM subjects when asked to
compete. Really!!??
Copilot:
STEM is an acronym for Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics. These fields are interconnected and focus on critical thinking, analytical reasoning, and problem-solving to understand and address real-world challenges
STEM education emphasizes practical learning, data analysis, and logical thinking, preparing students for careers in rapidly evolving industries
https://gemini.google.com/share/a4a4896c3806
Fine, this is only prep school and not university, but still. Shoudn't one expect teens be given an
enduring entry point into these particular subject. And a sense as to what applying what one
knows can be. Some of us are going to the Moon.
Hard to tell what is going on, or isn't. Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg and Sam Altman all left
university before graduating because they had work to do. These are subjects where it is hard
to excel without being really driven. And real understanding is hard earned...
The original questions about milk consumption that started thie whole line
of Q and Rs.
Copilot:
Are there societies that do not consume animal milk? How tall do people grow to in those societies?
Yes — several traditional societies historically consumed little or no animal milk, and their average adult heights vary widely. The key takeaway is that avoiding milk does not automatically make a population short; height depends far more on overall nutrition, disease burden, and genetics than on dairy alone.
Current research shows that milk consumption can increase stature in populations with lactase‑persistence genes, but many non‑dairying groups have been either short, medium, or tall depending on their broader environment.
🌍 Societies With Little or No Traditional Milk Consumption
Below are major examples of populations that historically did not rely on animal milk:
1. East Asian populations (China, Japan, Korea)
Traditionally very low dairy consumption.
High prevalence of lactose intolerance.
Average adult height (modern):
Japan: ~171 cm men, ~158 cm women
China: ~169 cm men, ~158 cm women
(Heights rose sharply in the 20th century due to improved nutrition, not dairy.)
2. Indigenous peoples of the Americas
No dairy animals before European contact.
Diets based on maize, beans, squash, game.
Average adult height (historical):
Many pre‑Columbian groups were surprisingly tall for agriculturalists — often around 168–172 cm for men, depending on region (inferred from skeletal data; consistent with research showing stature depends on overall diet and disease load rather than milk).
3. Southeast Asian populations (Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia)
Traditionally minimal dairy.
Average adult height (modern):
Vietnam: ~168 cm men, ~156 cm women
Philippines: ~165 cm men, ~154 cm women
(Heights strongly influenced by childhood nutrition and infection rates.)
4. Hunter‑gatherer groups (Hadza, San, Andamanese)
No dairy animals.
Average adult height:
San (Southern Africa): ~158–163 cm men, ~148–155 cm women
Hadza (Tanzania): ~162–168 cm men, ~150–155 cm women
(These heights reflect genetics and energy availability, not dairy absence.)
🧬 What Research Says About Milk and Height
Archaeological and genetic studies show:
Populations that adopted milk and evolved lactase persistence (e.g., Northern Europeans, some East African pastoralists) became taller on average.
This effect appears in skeletal data from the last 7,000–8,000 years, where milk consumption “turbo‑charged” growth in some regions.
But non‑dairying agriculturalists were not uniformly short; many maintained stable stature over thousands of years.
Conclusion:
Milk can enhance growth in populations genetically adapted to digest it, but it is not required for achieving normal or even tall stature.
📌 Summary Table
If you want, I can also:
Compare these heights to high‑dairy populations (e.g., Dutch, Maasai).
Explain why some non‑dairy societies are tall while others are short.
Map global lactose‑intolerance patterns and how they relate to height.
Would you like a comparison with high‑milk societies next?
Do people who do not drink have weaker bones?
Short answer:
People who avoid milk do not automatically develop weaker bones — but people who avoid calcium and vitamin D do. Milk is just one convenient source. The real issue is nutrient intake, not milk itself.
🟣 What the research actually shows
1. Avoiding milk can lead to lower calcium intake → lower bone density
Studies consistently show that people who avoid dairy often consume much less calcium, and this is what affects bone strength.
Lactose‑intolerant individuals may have reduced bone density and higher fracture risk when dairy avoidance leads to low calcium intake.
Large observational studies also found that low milk consumers had increased fracture risk, though evidence quality varies.
People avoiding milk due to allergy or intolerance had significantly lower calcium intake and lower BMD (bone mineral density) in the wrist and ankle.
2. Lactose intolerance itself does not harm bones
The enzyme issue (lactase deficiency) does not reduce calcium absorption in adults. The problem is simply that many lactose‑intolerant people avoid calcium‑rich foods.
3. Low calcium intake → hormonal changes → bone loss
In lactose‑intolerant individuals with low calcium intake:
Parathyroid hormone (PTH) rises
Bone turnover increases
Bone mass decreases
This was shown in a study of 66 lactose‑intolerant adults with low calcium intake.
🟢 So do non‑milk drinkers have weaker bones?
Only if they fail to replace the calcium and vitamin D that milk normally provides.
People who avoid dairy but consume enough calcium from other sources (e.g., fortified plant milks, leafy greens, tofu, canned fish with bones, supplements) can maintain normal bone density.
People who avoid dairy and do not compensate tend to have:
Lower calcium intake
Lower bone mineral density
Higher fracture risk
This pattern appears across multiple studies.
🟩 Practical takeaway for you, Louise
If someone doesn’t drink milk, they should ensure:
1000–1200 mg calcium/day (diet or supplements)
Vitamin D (sunlight or supplements)
Protein intake
Weight‑bearing exercise
With these in place, bone strength can be just as good as in milk drinkers.
If you want, I can also calculate your ideal daily calcium intake, or help you build a non‑dairy bone‑strengthening meal plan.
From Le Monde:
Do English children drink milk or eat cereal with milk?
Yes — English children absolutely do drink milk and eat cereal with milk, but the way they consume milk has changed over time, and it’s not as universal as it used to be.
Here’s the real picture, based on cultural habits, school programs, and modern trends.
🥛 Milk and English Children: What’s Typical Today
1. Milk at school is still a thing — especially for younger children
In England, children in nursery and reception (ages 4–5) are entitled to free milk at school.
It’s part of a long‑standing public health program.
Under age 5 → free milk daily
Age 5+ → parents can pay for school milk if they want
So yes, many young children drink milk at school.
2. Cereal with milk is extremely common
Breakfast cereals are a huge part of British food culture.
Typical English children’s breakfasts include:
Cornflakes with milk
Weetabix with milk
Rice Krispies with milk
Shreddies, Cheerios, Coco Pops, etc.
Milk + cereal is one of the most standard breakfasts in the UK.
3. But milk drinking has declined among older kids
Just like in Canada and the US, teenagers in England drink less milk than previous generations.
Reasons:
Rise of plant milks
More soft drinks and juices
More grab‑and‑go breakfasts
More lactose intolerance awareness
Still, dairy remains common in:
Tea (very British)
Yogurt
Cheese (extremely popular)
So even if they don’t drink milk straight, they consume dairy.
🧬 4. Lactose intolerance is relatively low in England
Only about 5–10% of people in the UK are lactose intolerant — much lower than in East Asia or West Africa.
This is because the British population has a very high rate of lactase persistence, the genetic ability to digest milk into adulthood.
So culturally and biologically, milk fits well into the English diet.
🧁 5. Milk is also used in many everyday foods
English children regularly consume milk indirectly through:
Custard
Puddings
Hot chocolate
Tea with milk
School desserts
Cheese sandwiches
Macaroni cheese
Even if they don’t drink a glass of milk, dairy is everywhere.
🧩 Summary
Do English children drink milk?
→ Yes, especially younger ones, and especially at school.
Do they eat cereal with milk?
→ Very commonly — it’s a staple breakfast.
Is milk consumption universal?
→ No, but it’s still culturally normal and widely accepted.
If you want, I can compare:
English vs. French vs. Canadian children’s milk habits
How milk consumption changed over the last 50 years
Whether English children drink more milk than children in non‑dairy cultures
How about in France? Less so, I would think!
You’re absolutely right to suspect that French children consume less milk than English children — and the difference is very real. France has a distinct food culture around dairy, and it shows up clearly in children’s habits.
Let me give you the clearest picture.
🇫🇷 Do French children drink milk?
Yes, but far less often than British or North American children.
What’s typical:
Many French children drink hot milk with chocolate (like Chocolat Poulain or Nesquik) at breakfast.
Some drink cold milk, but it’s not the default.
Milk is not commonly served at school lunches.
A glass of plain milk is not a cultural staple the way it is in the UK or Canada.
Why?
French food culture emphasizes:
Yogurt
Cheese
Custards and dairy desserts
Milk in things, not milk as a drink
So dairy is everywhere — but not in a glass.
🥣 Do French children eat cereal with milk?
Yes, but less than English children, and often with a twist.
Patterns:
Cereal is common, but not as dominant as in the UK.
Many French kids pour very little milk — just enough to moisten the cereal.
Some eat cereal dry.
Others use yogurt instead of milk (very French).
Breakfast in France is still often:
Bread with butter and jam
Croissants or pain au chocolat
Yogurt
Fruit
Cereal is present, but not the cultural default.
🧀 Where French children get their dairy
This is the key difference.
French kids consume lots of dairy, but mostly through:
Yogurts (a huge part of children’s diets)
Fromage blanc
Petit Suisse
Cheese (even young kids eat Camembert, Comté, Emmental)
Desserts like crème dessert, flan, riz au lait
France is one of the highest yogurt‑consuming countries in the world, especially among children.
So the dairy intake is high — just not in liquid form.
🇬🇧🇫🇷 Quick comparison: England vs. France
Your intuition was spot‑on: French children drink less milk, but they eat more yogurt and cheese.
If you want, I can also compare:
France vs. Quebec (interesting differences!)
France vs. Japan (another low‑milk culture)
How lactose intolerance rates differ across Europe
Is there more lactose intolerance in France?
Short answer for you, Louise: yes — France has more lactose intolerance than the UK, but still far less than Southern Europe or Asia.
Let me give you the clear, nuanced picture.
🇫🇷 Lactose intolerance in France
France sits in a middle zone:
Lower lactose intolerance than Italy, Spain, Greece
Higher than the UK, Ireland, Scandinavia
Much lower than East Asia or West Africa
Estimated lactose intolerance rates:
France: ~30–40%
UK: ~5–10%
Scandinavia: ~2–5%
Italy: ~50–70%
China/Japan: ~85–95%
So yes — France has significantly more lactose intolerance than England, which helps explain why the French don’t drink as much plain milk.
🧬 Why France is in the middle
France has a mixed genetic history:
Northern France has higher lactase persistence (more like Britain).
Southern France has lower lactase persistence (more like Spain/Italy).
This creates a national average that’s moderate.
🥛 How this shows up in French food culture
Because more people are lactose‑intolerant:
Milk as a drink is less common
Yogurt is extremely common (fermentation reduces lactose)
Cheese is everywhere (most cheeses have very little lactose)
Dairy is eaten, not drunk
The culture fits the biology.
Your intuition was exactly right: France has more lactose intolerance, and the food culture adapted accordingly.
If you want, I can also explain:
Why yogurt is so well tolerated even by lactose‑intolerant people
Why Northern Europeans have such high lactase persistence
How Quebec compares to France in lactose intolerance
Is there lactase persistence in German-speaking countries?
Yes — German‑speaking countries (Germany, Austria, Switzerland) have high lactase persistence, very similar to their northern and western European neighbors.
This means most adults in these countries can digest lactose without difficulty.
Here’s the clear, evidence‑based picture.
🇩🇪🇦🇹🇨🇭 Lactase persistence in German‑speaking countries
Germany
Modern estimates show that only about 15–20% of German adults are lactose intolerant, meaning 80–85% have lactase persistence.
This aligns with the long history of dairy farming in Central Europe and the spread of the –13910T* lactase‑persistence allele.
There are regional differences:
Northwest Germany → higher lactase persistence
East & Southwest → somewhat lower
These patterns reflect ancient migrations and settlement history.
Austria & Switzerland
Direct country‑specific numbers weren’t returned in the search, but based on:
shared Central European genetic history
the same Neolithic dairying traditions
the same dominant European lactase‑persistence allele (–13910*T) documented across Europe
…it is well‑established in population genetics research that Austria and Switzerland also have high lactase‑persistence frequencies, broadly comparable to Germany and other Alpine/North‑Central European populations.
In other words:
German‑speaking Europe is a high‑lactase‑persistence zone.
🧬 Why lactase persistence is high there
Genetic studies show that the –13910T mutation* associated with lifelong lactase production spread rapidly in Central Europe about 7,500 years ago, driven by strong natural selection in dairying populations.
Archaeological evidence confirms that milk use was widespread across Europe from the Neolithic onward, creating the evolutionary pressure that favored lactase‑persistent individuals.
Bottom line:
German‑speaking countries have high lactase persistence, much closer to the UK and Scandinavia than to France, Italy, or Southern Europe.
If you want, I can compare Germany vs. France vs. the UK in lactose intolerance, or explain why Central Europe became a lactase‑persistence hotspot.
Does that include the Balkans?
Short answer, Louise: the Balkans have much lower lactase persistence than German‑speaking Central Europe.
They’re almost opposite ends of the European spectrum.
Let me give you the clear, structured picture.
🌍 Lactase Persistence in the Balkans
The Balkans are a low‑to‑moderate lactase‑persistence region, much closer to Southern Europe than to Germany or Austria.
Approximate lactose intolerance rates:
Greece: ~70–80%
Albania: ~70–80%
Bulgaria: ~60–70%
Romania: ~50–60%
Serbia / Bosnia / Croatia: ~40–60%
Slovenia: ~20–30% (more Central European)
So yes — the Balkans have significantly more lactose intolerance than German‑speaking countries.
🇩🇪🇦🇹🇨🇭 Contrast: German‑speaking countries
Germany: ~15–20% lactose intolerance
Austria: similar to Germany
Switzerland: ~10–20%
These are high lactase‑persistence populations, similar to the UK, Netherlands, and Scandinavia.
🧬 Why the difference?
It comes down to ancient population history.
Central Europe (Germany, Austria, Switzerland):
Early and intense dairying in the Neolithic
Strong selection for the lactase‑persistence mutation
High frequency of the –13910*T allele
The Balkans:
More genetic continuity with early European farmers who did not have lactase persistence
Less intense selection pressure for fresh‑milk drinking
Dairy culture focused more on cheese, yogurt, and fermented milk, which are low in lactose
This is why Balkan cuisine is full of:
Yogurt
Kefir
Feta
Kajmak
Sour milk
…all of which are friendly to lactose‑intolerant populations.
If you want, I can also map:
Lactase persistence across all of Europe
Why the Balkans became a yogurt‑heavy culture
How this ties into height, nutrition, and history